Caste based reservations in the private sector will be the end of any chance of India becoming a more prosperous nation. In public sector, the reservations are not limited to getting a job, but the promotions as well. In some public sectors, the promotion schedule gets accelerated basis caste. Sure, a lot needs to be done for a more equal society where everyone has the same opportunities, but private sector reservation is not it.
I am not getting your point, if you were making any. Regardless of what history shows, almost everyone will agree that we must have equal opportunities for all people, for a humane society.
Equal societies indeed make better use of human capital than societies that discriminate and waste otherwise valuable skills. But equality is not the same thing as equity.
Equality is the prerogative of the government. Why do you want equal share in someone's private property? This is what reservations in the private sector mean. Someone takes all the risk, and works their ass off to establish a business and you come in with demands of equality in what someone else has made.
I want discrmination, of any shape, form and kond and for all reasons, to go away in the private sector as well. Your, and my, personal freedom stop where someone elses begins. And that explicitly includes caste based discrimination, among all other forms.
Affirmative action does not eliminate discrimination, it enforces discrimination up to an arbitrarily defined standard.
Suppose you're applying to a company that's posted 10 openings and has already filled 7 of them, and that you belong to category A, and there's three more candidates who belong to category B. Suppose further that it can be objectively determined that you're a better fit for any of the openings than any of the other candidates, but the company has already filled its category A quota. You will be rejected because of your category, and the less capable candidates will be accepted also because of their category.
Note that it doesn't matter how the categories are defined in my example. Maybe you belong to a privileged (in the social justice sense) class, but it's equally possible that you belong to a disadvantaged class and the inept candidates belong to a privileged class.
> Your, and my, personal freedom stop where someone else begins.
Basically arbitrary rule. Someone else's personal freedom can begin anywhere according to this statement. It can even begin in your home, doesn't matter whether you live alone or not.
Yeah, and you can always tell someone's full financial position from little details like that. (eyeroll)
So someone who got a benefit from the state that addresses a serious, well-proven injustice, and wasn't crawling on their knees and begging for it. Sounds like the system is working.
Even if your anecdote is real, and their use of an Audi indicated they were well able to pay full school fees, so what? We give such benefits to the parents because we want to target the child. Sometimes the parents might make different financial choices, obtain a car that's more than they need. (And you don't know how they got it, whether it's used, or whether they feel they need it to "keep up appearances" with others so peers, like you, don't judge them by their car.)
In any case that's why the benefit is delivered as reduced school fees. TLDR the children aren't the ones who bought the Audi.
"little details": In a country where an Audi is a huge luxury, yeah you can tell enough.
That also means they have the resources to compete fairly with their peers and choose not to by invoking their OBC class, which in all practicality has NO affect on their life.
The point was a generation before had reaped the benefits of reservation and anything further was exploitation. That family was not treated, nor lived as an OBC. The system worked, its stoppage is overdue by at least 20 years.
Elite capture is a real phenomenon and I think one that affirmative action programs worldwide struggle to handle. It's worth acknowledging even if we ultimately decide the benefits outweigh the costs.
No, we don't need caste-based reservations in the private sector. (And I'm saying this as someone that's ST). That would further increase the divide between castes, and I've never heard of anyone being denied a job in private sector based on their caste. It's definitely not the norm.
Reservation should be meant to uplift 1-2 generations, I don't see the point in giving reservation beyond that. I've seen so many rich people from lower castes getting into institutions easily and also availing scholarships by faking their parents yearly income. The whole system is rigged to be honest.
